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~Waite Phillips at the dedication of Philmont

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2010 Philmont Trail Menu

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icon 2010 Philmont Trail Menu
icon 2010 Philmont Trail Menu w Food Ingredients

Breakfast #1

Oatmeal To Go – Oatmeal Raisin

Lara Bar – Peanut Butter and Jelly

Bagel Chips – Cinnamon Raisin

Squeeze Cheese – Cream Cheese

Fruit  Roll Up  – Strawberry

Alpine Brand Apple Cider by Krusteaz

 

Breakfast #6

Maple Granola

Fruition Bar – Blueberry

Pineapple Chunks

Beef Jerky – Peppered

Lemonade

 

Breakfast #2

French Vanilla Granola

Raisins

Fig Newtons

Nature Valley Bar – Peanut Butter

Hot Cocoa

Breakfast #7

Fruit Roll Up – Tropical Tie Dye

Pop Tarts – Blueberry

Nature Valley Bar – Oats N Honey

Raisins

Alpine Brand Apple Cider by Krusteaz

Breakfast #3

Instant Oatmeal –Maple and Brown Sugar

Pro Bar – Whole Berry Blast

Beef Jerky – Original

Pop Tarts – Strawberry

Lemonade

 

Breakfast #8

Oatmeal To Go – Brown Sugar Cinnamon

Fig Newtons

Apricots

Lara Bar – Apple Pie

Tang – Fruit Punch

 

Breakfast #4

Day Break Blend Trail Mix – Berry Almond

Breakfast Cookie – Oatmeal Raisin

Newton’s Fruit Crisp – Apple Cinnamon

Lara Bar – Cinnamon Roll

Alpine Brand Apple Cider by Krusteaz

Breakfast #9

Super Nutty Granola

Chewy Granola Bar – Peanut Butter

Newton’s Fruit Crisp – Mixed Berry

Beef Jerky – Original

Hot Cocoa

Breakfast #5

Mountain House Breakfast Skillet

Chewy Granola Bar – Peanut Butter

Fig Newtons

Banana Chips

Hot Cocoa

Breakfast #10

Instant Oatmeal – Apples & Cinnamon

Fruition Bar – Cran Raspberry

Pop Tarts – Brown Sugar Cinnamon

Apple Slices – Dehyrdated

Lemonade

 


Last Updated on Saturday, 01 May 2010 19:46 Read more...
 

Itinerary #8

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Itinerary #8...I know they change every so often but, is anyone out there who walked #8 last year willing to offer any tips or ideas regarding that trek?  The trek will make the following stops:

Rayado River
Toothache Springs
Miners Park
Lookout Meadow
Apache Springs (2 nights)
Comanche Creek
Clear Creek
Red Hills
Clarks Fork

Looking for insight on programs and side treks.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Eric
Last Updated on Wednesday, 23 June 2010 05:34
 

Food allergies and special diets at Philmont

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The Philmont 2010 Guidebook to Adventure will address the issue of food allergies and special diets.  It will state something like the following:
 
"Philmont trail food is by necessity a high-carbohydrate, high-caloric diet.  It is high in wheat, milk products, sugar and corn syrup, and artificial coloring/flavoring.  If an individual is allergic to some food products or requires a special diet, suitable trail food must be purchased at home and brought to Philmont.  Lightweight, non-perishable, low bulk foods are recommended for backpacking.  Package each day's meals separately and write the person's name and Expedition Number on each package. Upon arrival at the ranch, give the food to your Ranger who will take it to Logistics.  Arrangements will be made to transport it to the appropriate backcountry commissaries for your crew.  There is no fee reduction for individuals who bring their own food."
 
Contingent Leaders and Crew Advisors should insure that their campers are aware of this requirement.  Every summer, campers arrive unaware of this requirement or unprepared and without substitutes.  Philmont options are very limited at that point. 
 
If a crew chooses not to use Philmont trail equipment, they must provide their own substitutes.  It is the same if you cannot or will not eat the trail food provided by Philmont.
 
The trail menu and ingredients list is generally available about mid-April.  Contact the main Commissary to get a copy of the menu and ingredients list.
 
 
 
 

Jim Van Hecke
Asst. Mgr. Camping Services
04-05-06-07-08-09-10
I am a seasonal employee at Philmont Scout Ranch, and I know what I am talking about, BUT I DO NOT SPEAK FOR PHILMONT. Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not that of the Boy Scouts of America, or Philmont Scout Ranch.

 
Last Updated on Wednesday, 23 June 2010 05:33
 

2010 Philmont Itneraries Online

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Al Thompson first shared this in the message board and on the Philmont mail list.  I wanted to move this out front so everyone can see it.  I'll also activate the web links for ease of use.  Hope you don't mind Al.

Link to Message Board thread on this topic

The following has been posted on the Philmont Web site Monday afternoon:
 
2010 Trek Itinerary information is now available online
The 2010 Treks book information is now available online. You can
download the entire book, or review itineraries individually at a glance.  The itinerary selection process has changed starting in 2010, and the process will now be done online.  The itinerary selection process does not begin until Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:01 AM CDT, and is not available until that time, but be sure to complete your Itinerary Selection Worksheet prior to that time so you will be ready to complete the itinerary selection process online (which is is first-come, first-served method).
 
My first shot assessment of changes (using the itineraries at a glance list) is below (clearly verify everything with the printed version!).  Note two totally new treks, #6 and #7 which each were in the South in 2009 and are now North / Valle Vidal treks.

Al Thomson, Patriots' Path Council NJ and Troop 120, Keowee SC
Treks 1999, 2001, and 2003
Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2008

The Watchu Experience
Patriots' Path Council's Trail to Philmont
Last Updated on Friday, 19 March 2010 14:59 Read more...
 

2011 Philmont Expedition Registration Info

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2011 Philmont Registration Pkt 2011 Philmont Registration Pkt

Registration requests for 2011 Expeditions for Philmont Scout Ranch will be made on the internet beginning
November 1 thru December 5, 2009.

Note on units receiving priority treatment in the lottery:   Reservations will not be assigned in the order that registration requests are made. Reservations will be pickedrandomly by computer at the close of the registration request period beginning December 6. Special Note: Boy Scout Troops, Varsity Teams and Venture Crews who have officially been on the waiting list for the past four years (2010, 2009, 2008, 2007) will be given priority treatment. These units need to place a registration request and the system will place their reservation before the other registration requests are andomly considered. Units who should have been eligible for this offer but found alternate ways to allow heir youth members to participate in 2010 (i.e. participating in a Council Contingent or joining another unit and participating as part of their reservation) should voluntarily withdraw from the 2011 reservation system and honor the minimum participation requirement of every other year.

Unit representatives may log on to http://philmontreservations.wslive.com/2011 during their assigned week which corresponds to their BSA Region or during the open week. To verify the BSA Region in which our unit is located, please contact your Council Service Center.
▶ Week One: Northeast Region ~ Nov 1 – 7
▶ Week Two: Western Region ~ Nov 8 - 14
▶ Week Three: Southern Region ~ Nov 15 - 21
▶ Week Four: Central Region ~ Nov 22 - 28
▶ Week Five: Open Week ~ Nov 29 – Dec 5
Please Note: Each Region’s schedule will begin at 12:00 am Central Standard Time

EXPEDITIONS:
Length: 12 days & nights
Arrival Dates: Each day June 8 through August 9
Cost: $725 per person
Payment Schedule:
$100/person deposit due Feb 12, 2010
$312.50/person advance Oct. 1, 2010
$312.50/person balance March 1, 2011

Length: 7 days & nights

Arrival Dates: August 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
Cost $441 per person

Payment Schedule:
$100/person deposit due Feb 12, 2010
$171/person advance due Oct 1, 2010
$171/person balance due March 1, 2011

AGE REQUIREMENT
Age requirement for Expeditions and Cavalcades: 2011 Philmont participants must be 14 years of age OR
completed 8th Grade and be at least 13 years of age prior to participation.

 


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Contingent Trek Dates

Sun Jun 16, 2013 @08:00AM - 05:00PM
Heart of Ohio 6 crews
Tue Jun 18, 2013 @08:00AM - 05:00PM
Troop 314 Gilmer TX
Sat Jun 22, 2013
Troop 513, Phoenix AZ, 622-N
Sun Jun 23, 2013 @08:00AM - 05:00PM
2013 Golden Empire Council Contingents
Sun Jun 23, 2013 @08:00AM - 05:00PM
Hawkeye Area Council
Sat Jul 13, 2013 @08:00AM - 05:00PM
Troop 268 New Market, MD
Wed Jul 17, 2013 @08:00AM - 05:00PM
Troop 87 Cross Plains, WI
Thu Jul 18, 2013 @09:30AM - 08:00AM
Troop 374 Raleigh, NC; Troop 787 Fayetteville, NC
Thu Aug 01, 2013
Troop 564 Bel Air, MD