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"These properties are donated and dedicated to the Boy Scouts of America for the purpose of perpetuating faith—self reliance—integrity—freedom. Principles used to build this great country by the American pioneer so that these future citizens may, through thoughtful adult guidance, and by the inspiration of nature visualize and form a code of living to diligently maintain these high ideals and our proper destiny."
~Waite Phillips at the dedication of Philmont

 Welcome to the Philmont Forum!

This website is dedicated to Philmont Scout Ranch and other high adventure opportunities in the Scouting programs.  The site includes a message board (forum), a private messaging system, and user profiles and features.  If you are already a regisitered member, login and update your profile.  If you are not already a registered member, register and join the community.

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Wood Gas Stove

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Discussions about Wood Gas Stove

Consider using carbon neutral Wood Gas fuel rather than processed fossil fuel.

A few hand fulls of dry cellulose can boil a quart of water in less then 5 minutes.

Cellulose is bulkier by 4x that of liquid fuels but you might not have to carry any in some places.

Soot collects on the pot increasing the power absorbed.
Soot becomes hard and need not be cleaned to often.
You can place your pot in a plastic bag to contain the soot.
Works best if all you do is heat water in your pot and hydrate your food in freezer bags.

Learn more via links at

Would like to hear your comments so can update this HOWTO.

Mike Rushford ASM Troop931 Livermore Ca.

Last Updated on Monday, 02 March 2009 01:19

Really Cool Things to do and see at Philmont

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Deciding which Philmont trek to take is often an adventure in itself. For most Scouts, Philmont is a once-in-a-lifetime experience; Foreknowledge of where to find the unusual, interesting and scenic places helps crewmembers get the most out of their adventure. Our Venturing Crew, 1716, is considering which trek to take in 2009. It goes without saying that trek difficulty (challenging, rugged, strenuous, or super strenuous) and activities are part of our trek selection process.  Before continuing, it’s worth repeating, there are no bad treks at Philmont! That said, Philmont has much more to offer. Below are some special places to go and things to do. You won’t find most of these in the Philmont Trek Itinerary Guide. Where to enjoy a great sunrise, hike the toughest trail, which peaks can be bushwhacked, the "postcard photo", or what campsites have those comfortable rock chairs.


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Last Updated on Tuesday, 24 February 2009 01:25

Philmont Cooking the Boiling Bag Way !

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I've watched the discussion about Philmont cooking and would be amazed if you did it any other way than the attached "Crew 506" method. Dave Parmly had this on the Philmont discussion forum in Dec. of '04. We did it, with some minor changes, in June '05 and have some additional changes done by subsequent units from the Greater St. Louis Area Council (GSLAC). Our ranger said "I won't waste your time or mine showing you the Philmont one pot method" since he could see we had perfected the system and it was easy for us. The only dishes we ever washed were our personal ones - brain dead easy. We ate everything and never put anything into the swap boxes, kids loved green beans with added onion flakes and garlic powder. We never really had to "gut sump", we ate everything received as food - remember this cooking system is how the food companies designed their products to be used.


Last Updated on Friday, 13 February 2009 01:59

2008 Philmont Treks Comparison Chart now available

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Al Thompson has prepared a spreadsheet that contains information on, and compares all of the itineraries Philmont offered in 2008.  These files are hosted on the Patriot's Path website

Get the .pdf version of the spreadsheet by clicking here.

Get the spreadsheet as an MS Excel spreadsheet by clicking here.

Last Updated on Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:33

Shakedowns and Crew Preparation for Philmont – Part 5 – Getting the “Work” Done

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As I’ve stated previously, there is usually about three hours of non-hiking “work” to be done daily at Philmont.  This work includes setting up camp, tearing down camp, cooking dinner, and KP.  As I’ve also stated previously, it is up to the crew to decide if they want to do this “work” in three hours or in four, five, six, or more hours.

I covered camp setup and tear down, and the associated tasks involved in each of these processes in Part 4 of this series, and will not duplicate those processes or tasks here.

We train our crews on the same material I have included in these articles.  This is not “advisor only” material.  We expect our Crew Leaders to know this information with their eyes closes.  We should only have to ask “What needs to be done now?” and the Crew Leader should be able to go from there – if he or she hasn’t already.

Last Updated on Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:51

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