"These properties are donated and dedicated to the Boy Scouts of
America for the purpose of perpetuating faith—self
reliance—integrity—freedom. Principles used to build this great country
by the American pioneer so that these future citizens may, through
thoughtful adult guidance, and by the inspiration of nature visualize
and form a code of living to diligently maintain these high ideals and
our proper destiny." ~Waite Phillips at the dedication of Philmont
Welcome to the Philmont Forum!
This website is dedicated to Philmont Scout Ranch and other high adventure opportunities in the Scouting programs. The site includes a message board (forum), a private messaging system, and user profiles and features. If you are already a regisitered member, login and update your profile. If you are not already a registered member, register and join the community.
All registered members have full access to post messages and reply to messages on the message board, to write Philmont articles and blogs, to upload and download photos from the photo gallery, and to upload and download documents and files from the "download" section. So look around, login or register, then join the community of users.
Here is the 2009 Philmont Training Center Schedule. The entire information packet is available in the Downloads section of the website or by clicking on the link below.
The Philmont Training Center is nestled in the foothills of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains of northeastern New Mexico near Cimarron. Rich in history and natural beauty, this area offers exciting educational experiences for the entire family. PTC has served as the National Training Center for the Boy Scouts of America since 1950. A variety of weeklong conferences will be conducted for unit, district, and council volunteers and professionals. Each conference features the latest tools, audiovisuals, and techniques led by
a faculty of experienced Scouters. The conference schedule permits ample time for family activities, day hiking, and recreation. Our summer staff will lead hiking, tours, handicrafts, and outdoor activities. A weeklong backcountry Mountain Trek for Venturing-aged youth is also offered (excepting Weeks 1 and 12). Invitations to these conferences
are initiated by your local council. Full details on programs are sent to participants upon acceptance of the invitation for registration. Applications are accepted on a first-come, first-served basis.
To Register: Go to www.myscouting.org and register under the events Reservations section. To receive more information and course descriptions, check our website at www.philmonttrainingcenter.org, go to www.myscouting.org (Located in the event Reservations section), contact your local council, call us at 575-376-2281, fax 575-376-2629, or email us at
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Week 1: June 7-13
Volunteer Development
Advancement Policy and Procedures
Initiative Games for Packs, Troops, Teams and Crews
Order of the Arrow Adviser Training
Strictly for Cubmasters
Strictly for Scoutmasters
Strictly for Varsity Coaches
Strictly for Venturing Advisors
Teaching Basic Outdoor Skills
Webelos to First Class
Week 2: June 14 - 20
Council Service Teams / CPD / NAYLE
Administration of Quality Commissioner Service
Advanced Administration of Commissioner Service
Advanced Communication and Counseling Skills for
Highly Effective Leadership
Advanced Unit Commissioner Service
Endowment Fellowship Week
Fundamentals of Major Gifts and Endowment
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
PM 1 and PM 2
The Unit Commissioner – Supporting Unit Needs
Week 3: June 21 - 27
Chartered Organizations / NAYLE
Bringing Youth to Christ through a Baptist
Scouting Ministry
District Key 3 – Key Leadership for the Future
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Reconnecting Scouting Alumni
Religious Emblems for Units and Districts
Scouting in Religious Organizations
Scouting in the Catholic Church
Scouting Serves the Jewish Community
United Methodist Scouter’s Workshop
Week 4: June 27 - July 3
LDS Relationships / NAYLE
LDS Scouting Leadership Conference
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Week 5: July 4 - July 10
LDS Relationships / NAYLE
LDS Scouting Leadership Conference
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Week 6: July 12 - 18
Council Administration & Board Development /
CPD / NAYLE
Advanced District Administration
Council Key 3 – Leadership for the 100th
Anniversary
District Key 3 – Key Leadership for the Future
International Representative Training
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Strictly for Cubmasters
Strictly for Scoutmasters
Strictly for Venturing Advisors
Week 7: July 19 - 25
Volunteer Development / NAYLE
Geocache and Scouting
Leading Pack Camping
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Orienteering and Scouting
Professional Development Level 2
Putting More Outing in Scouting
Putting Pizzazz into Cub Scouting
Recruit Train, and Retain
Strictly for the Unit Committee
The Trainer’s Edge
Week 8: July 26 - Aug 1
Volunteer Development / NAYLE
Advancement Policy and Procedures
Council/District Training Team
Delivering Venturing in Your District and Council
How to Develop Crews that Thrive
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Specialized Programming for Crews
Strictly for the Venturing Advisors
Training Venturing Leaders – Youth and Adults
Working with Scouts with Special Needs
Youth Leadership Continuum
Week 9: August 2 - 8
Volunteer Development / NAYLE
Boy Scout Roundtables
Building Strong Packs, Troops, Teams, and Crews
Cub Scout Outdoor Program
Cub Scout Roundtables
National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience
Strictly for Cubmasters
Strictly for Scoutmasters
Teaching Basic Outdoor Skills
Troop Operations
Webelos to First Class
Week 10: August 9 - 15
Unit Growth / Council Administration
& Board Development
Becoming a Stronger Executive Board Member
Council Key 3 – Leadership for the 100th
Anniversary
Council Program Administration
District Committees Help Strengthen Units
District Key 3 – Key Leadership for the Future
Membership Growth for Districts and Councils
Training Management Seminar
Week 11: August 16 - 22
Council Service Team
Administration of Quality Commissioner Service
Advanced Administration of Commissioner Service
Advanced Communication and Counseling Skills
for Highly Effective Leadership
Advanced Unit Commissioner Service
Council Program Administration
District Committees Help Strengthen Units
Health and Safety / Risk Management
Philmont Leadership Challenge
The Unit Commissioner – Supporting Unit Needs
Week 12: September 20 - 26
Fall Conference
Advanced Project COPE Director Training
Climbing and Rappelling
Connecting Children and Nature
Creating High Adventures that Last a Lifetime
High Adventure Trek Planning
Implementing Leave No Trace in the Council
Philmont Leadership Challenge
Project COPE Director Training
Properties Course
Teaching Advanced Outdoor Skills
The Trainer’s EDGE
Wilderness First Aid
RATES:
Conference Participants: $450
Spouses and 20+ years old: $320
Ages 6-20: $270
Ages 3-5: $170
2 years and younger $ 60
Mountain Trek & NAYLE $340
National Capital Area scouters Cooper Wright and Wally Feurtado began the unofficial publication called the "Philmont Advisor's Guide" more than fifteen years ago. The Philmont
Advisor's Guide is supported with input from experienced advisors and Philmont
rangers. Mimi Hatch, currently the chairperson of the Baltimore Area Council's Philmont Committee, became a contributor to the guide in 1997 and has been editing the
guide for Cooper for the last five years. This Fall, she has taken over responsibility for managing and publishing the guide. As in the
past, it will be updated continually throughout each year, in response to changes in
Philmont best practices, policies and procedures. The Fall 2008 version
was just released.
This 118 page guide has proven invaluable to legions of scouters for many
years, yet remains fresh, timely, and insightful. The guide is a
compilation of input from a network of advisors and staff, which is what
makes it so unique. That network also includes experienced female advisors,
rangers and ranger trainers, which adds an important perspective for the
growing Venturing population at Philmont - and gives women the option of
contacting peers "off-line" through contact info in the guide, for
questions.
Mimi has created an email address specifically for Philmont Advisor's Guide
correspondence at
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. Please feel free to
write to her at this address with any questions about the Philmont Advisor's
Guide. To order a copy of the guide, use the order form located
at the following link on the Baltimore Area Council's Philmont Contingent
website, which contains complete instructions.http://www.bacphilmont.org/pag.htmlAs in the past when Coop edited the
guide, the proceeds from the guide are used to benefit youth in scouting.
We are in the process of dividing our council contingent (6 adults and 18 scouts) into two crews. Some of the adults think that we should leave it up to the boys to divide themselves into two crews. Others think that the adults should make that decision. I am wondering what others might think is the better method and how they have approached this situation in the past. Thank you in advance for your help.
I received the following email and information from Fran Romero at Philmont today..
E-Mail:
To All Interested Unit Representatives:
I’ve attached the 2010 Registration Packet containing all the information required to place an entry for your unit. Please read the material carefully and note the week assigned to your BSA Region as well as the open week, in the event that you are not able to place an entry during your region’s assigned week. The same information will follow by U.S. mail along with the Philmont Adventures Brochure. Thank you for your interest in Philmont.
Fran Romero
Camping Registration
575-376-2281 x 1139
575-376-2636 (fax)
Reservation Information:
PHILMONT EXPEDITION REGISTRATION FOR 2010
Reservation requests for 2010 Expeditions for Philmont Scout Ranch will be made on the internet late October thru November of 2008. Please review the attached flyers for complete information and attendance requirements for Philmont.
The following information is provided to assist your unit in placing a reservation:
My Philmont return adventure started almost three years ago when my son and I were at Philmont on 7-05-N3, Trek 29, a 89 miler that did most of the ranch starting at Rayado Turnaround and ending at Ponil. We were to side hike the Tooth of Time and Baldy. It was a tough trek and when we were at Schaffers Pass, the decision was made not to sidehike the Tooth. My son was really the only person that wanted to do the sidehike, but he was voted down. We both regretted that decision, and decided if we ever got the chance we would do another Philmont trek as long as going over the tooth was involved. In 2006 our Troop found out that it was going in 2008, but at that time, no one knew what trek we were doing. Two openings were available, but we would not commit to them until we knew where we were going. Both spaces filled up, and I forgot about going. My Son, Brett, had an Eagle Court of Honor in the spring of 2007, and I made the decision to sell all my equipment, which I did. Two spaces on the trek opened again, but were filled before we found out about it. Six weeks before the trek, I received an email urgently wanting two people to attend Philmont, one of which had to be an adult. My son and wife were sitting in the living room when I got home, and told me about the email. I asked Brett if he wanted to go, and he replied yes, my wife gave me the OK, but at that time I still didn't know where the trek was going. My son he wanted to go even if it wasn't where we wanted to go. I contacted the Scout person in charge, and took the two spaces, got my vacation set , and started rounding up equipment. The pack was the most expensive, but a friend at Church gave me a great deal on one that was good enough for training. I had been working out for the past year, with taking a spinning class(simulated indoor cycling) three times a week. I had wondered why I was working out so hard, and I guess I had it in the back of my mind to be prepared just in case. Brett and I started training hiking three times a week, starting with 25 pounds for two miles, and increasing weight and distance each until we were doing 35 to 40 pounds 4 miles. With 10 days to go, Brett developed an ingrown toe nail, but the Doctor assured us it would be healed before the start of the trek. Enough background, on to Philmont 2008 Trek 26, 7-27-N2, ...................
(editors note - Philmont Two Timer's 2008 Philmont journal has been condensed into one blog entry for ease of reading. No content has been added or taken away - except for this paragraph. You can read his reflections on his trip by clicking here. You can go to the photo album for this trip by clicking here.)
Below are talking points I’ve gleaned from a variety of sources about Philmont’s Valle Vidal. The Valle is trekked by Philmont crews , but not owned by Philmont. While it’s well-known that there are differences in a trek through the Valle, details are scarce and scattered.
Our venture crew, 1716, http://www.vcrew1716.com , is considering whether to trek the Valle in 2009. These notes were prepared to help them make a more informed decision. While care has been taken to be accurate, we (at this point in time) have no first-hand experience. If you find it useful, please let me know. Your corrections, amplifications, experiences or insights are welcome.